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godsdiamondg...

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Posted on Jan 13, 2007

Yes I do.... there has to be no reason except that He's the one that made us to begin so He deserves everything we have.
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paolosmythe
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Posted on Jan 17, 2007

I would sooner listen to someone who claims to have a theory and portrays it as such...
 
than someone who has a work of fiction or old fables and then tries to pass it off as proven fact.
 
you can tell me that god exists as easily as i can tell you that it doesn't. 
 
why must people assume to know something, when all they really and honestly know, is that they know nothing.
 
just admit to your ignorance
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RedneckFrisK...

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Posted on Feb 19, 2007

Posted by Broderick
Personally; I believe in G-d because there has to be someone responsible for all of creation and life. Science glorifies G-d's work, and prooves he actually makes sense. This will most likely not make much sense to everyone else out there....I believe in G-d because he provides comfort and is always available to listen and give encouragment. G-d is accesable to everyone....

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[Edited by Broderick on 11/29/2006 at 11:21 PM]
 
I'd like to know how you so easily say that "He" is there to listen... and give encouragement.
 
When you "speak" to Him, does He speak back? Or do you feel in your 'soul' that He's there, and that He cares?
 
 
I don't remember that happening to me, for some odd reason.
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Posted on Feb 19, 2007

^It's different for everyone, I have no explanation for why that is, but that seems the situation to me. It's just the feeling I get (obviously I have no truly worthwhile or permenantly scientific reason), and it is sort of a soul thing. 
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paolosmythe
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Posted on Mar 22, 2007

when It speaks, does it sound like Charlton Heston?
 
ya, i am taking the piss; but seriously, why 'him' and if indeed it is him / her / them / it, why the need for capitalisation?  i mean really, an entity that can create a freaking planet ain't gonna be too phased by a lack adequate punctuation now is It?
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Broderick

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Posted on Mar 22, 2007

Posted by paolosmythe
when It speaks, does it sound like Charlton Heston?
 
ya, i am taking the piss; but seriously, why 'him' and if indeed it is him / her / them / it, why the need for capitalisation?  i mean really, an entity that can create a freaking planet ain't gonna be too phased by a lack adequate punctuation now is It?

Capitalisation is a sign of respect; names are capitalised.
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paolosmythe
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Posted on Mar 23, 2007

so to not capitalise is to risk burning in hell?
 
in the grander scheme of things, do you really think that an entity that has the power to give life and death at a mere whim really gives a toss?
 
sounds like a load of bullshit baffles brains to me;
 
ie keep the congregation overwhelmed with trivial details so the inconsistencies and sheer nonsense of the main philosophy are no longer quite so obvious
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toddm
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Posted on Mar 23, 2007

Posted by paolosmythe
so to not capitalise is to risk burning in hell?
 
in the grander scheme of things, do you really think that an entity that has the power to give life and death at a mere whim really gives a toss?
 
sounds like a load of bullshit baffles brains to me;
 
ie keep the congregation overwhelmed with trivial details so the inconsistencies and sheer nonsense of the main philosophy are no longer quite so obvious
Nah, I don't think God's gonna send me to hell if I say "god". One of the main reasons I do it is for identifying purposes. Like if I'm using pronouns to describe God, then I'll capitalize to save confusion. I know you'd never get confused, Paolo - you're a sharp, little bugger. But a lot of it is out of habit for me now. I usually try to type w/ proper grammar and punctuation. not always, but sometimes.
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aussiebacon

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Posted on Sep 14, 2007

I believe in God...I know God is real.

A simplistic yet accurate explanation on why God 'lets' bad things happen:

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so
many things and various subjects.

When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: "I don't believe that
God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked the customer

"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if
God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God
existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving God who would
allow all of these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an
argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left
the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed
beard. He lookeddirty and unkept!

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: "You
know what? Barbers do not exist."

"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am a barber and I
just worked on you!"

"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no
people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man I just saw outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me." the barber protested

"My point Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! What
happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
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Posted on Sep 19, 2007

Posted by aussiebacon
 

"My point Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! What
happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
 
And this is why I don't get involved in religion.
Sorry but reading that made me sick to my stomach, I normally wouldn't even post in here. 
I believe there is some higher power......... something NOBODY can comprehend. I don't go looking for IT, and I'm sorry to say but a couple  of the religious zealots I know are dying of cancer & a majority are alcoholics who go around dubbing who's going to heaven and who isn't. Can I please see some little cutesy explanation for that? Because....... now I am rather confused......... aren't they supposed to be living a life of no pain????? No suffering????
It's so funny how that little story made believing in GOD like another daily chore...... brush your teeth, you have nice one's; believe in God and you won't suffer or go through pain. PATHETIC.

aussiebacon

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Posted on Sep 19, 2007

Yeah, that's an interesting point, more interesting is the way you twisted the story.
It's no ones place to say who and who isn't going to heaven. I'm sorry you know some hypercrits and I'm also sorry your basing all your knowledge and arguements on those people.
No where in that story did it even imply that if you believe in God that will have no pain. Cause I know for a fact that isn't true. Knwing there is a God and buiding a relationship with him doesn't take away all pain and all suffering, you'd probably go through just as much s you did with out him BUT maintianing a relationship with him means you have someone with you all the way, and it does make it easier in that sense. He can help you.
 
Once again that story was a simplistic explanation, very simple.
 
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toddm
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Posted on Sep 21, 2007

Posted by Classy__x
Posted by aussiebacon
 

"My point Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! What
happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
 
And this is why I don't get involved in religion.
Sorry but reading that made me sick to my stomach, I normally wouldn't even post in here. 
I believe there is some higher power......... something NOBODY can comprehend. I don't go looking for IT, and I'm sorry to say but a couple  of the religious zealots I know are dying of cancer & a majority are alcoholics who go around dubbing who's going to heaven and who isn't. Can I please see some little cutesy explanation for that? Because....... now I am rather confused......... aren't they supposed to be living a life of no pain????? No suffering????
It's so funny how that little story made believing in GOD like another daily chore...... brush your teeth, you have nice one's; believe in God and you won't suffer or go through pain. PATHETIC.
Yeah, the New Testament would definitely disagree that Christians are supposed to have an easy, care-free life. Not sure where you got that from - maybe from other "Christians"? There's a lot of that whole "Christians are children of God therefore shouldn't be poor or suffer". I call North American Christianity. Try telling that to the missionary in China who is constantly fearing for his life in order to do God's will.  Alcoholic, religious zealots, eh? Do they also secretly view porn? Wouldn't surprise me. Jesus didn't have nice things to say about the religious zealots of his day either, so I guess you're in good company. You are right that God is uncomprehendable. If he were, I sure wouldn't worship him because then a feeble, finite brain could understand the omniscient, infinite creator.
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jodyjib

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Posted on Oct 18, 2007

There are very good philosophical arguments for the existence of God or gods. In astrophysics there are logical theories for more than one god: there are valid points, based on the Drake equation, for the existence of Q.
 
I think that here one must first define what they mean by a god like entity.
 
One must then also ( which zero here have ) come to terms with one god or more than one god. I mean Poly or mono-a-mono. 

 OK, heres why I said all that. Stable, fully-formed stars existed just 200 million years after the first singularity. OK, this means those stars had a 13.5 billion year head start on us. OK OK, it seems reasonable to the astronomers who dwell on this stuff that those early alien folks would quite literally seem like gods to us, if they managed to put reason over animal instinct that is. Of course part of that would be getting out beyond their doomed solar system before their dying star or stars puff up then collapse. But that, in itself, would be a god-like act to us, I mean getting off into space, because near light speed is just too slow! In reality, they would need to bend spacetime, or some-such thing we won't be able to do for another exactly 27,829 years. To the human brain, that would be a god-like act. Thus, that's why all the "I'm a confirmed atheist!" stuff one hears just makes one roll their cute little brown eyes. Why? Because current estimates point toward 500 billion ( and still counting! ) galaxies in the universe.

Trust me on this; there are gods in the universe. They probably don't work miracles or give a rat's- about us, as we would about as significant as gnats to them.

[Edited by jodyjib on 10/18/2007 at 8:20 AM]

Demon888

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Posted on Nov 04, 2007

yes i do because i have talked to him before

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